again, i dont care if you want to bring up the 7-1 defeat. you want to take a single game and use that to define a team’s 81 year history, then go ahead. as for the ‘most embarrassing moment(s) of italian football’, i would probably place the recent calciopoli situation (and the string of other corrupttion scandals) as the most embarrassing moment(s). remember how proud of italy and italian calcio you felt on the eve of the last world cup? remember the derogatory remarks in the media? remember the humiliation when tv announcers constantly diminished the italian game to nothing more than wwe wrestling? exactly. i wont even comment on how embarrassing that must have been as a juventino or milanista (particularly since the milanista also had the added luxury of participating in the cl thanks to having greased even more palms – after all, the only cheated a little bit).

there is nothing shameful in losing a game through legitimate means. there is a hell of a lot more shame in ‘winning’ through corrupt means. fortunately, roma wasnt ‘capable’ to play with the big boys of serie a when it came to that. you are right, we are certainly underachievers…that is, when it comes to corruption, threats, bullying, collusion, buying off smaller clubs and using corporate conflicts of interest as our game plan to win serie a titles. personally, as a fan of the glorious giallorossi, i can live with that ‘underachieving’ tag quite comfortably. i certainly don’t expect someone of your great intellect and thoughtfulness to agree with this, though. thank god.

the inter-pool aggregate was 3-0. the fate was sealed in the first game.

yes, roma beat the spanish league winners. there is no ‘over-inflating’, that is a fact.

as for nocerino, maybe you should consider a couple of things first. nocerino was not a ‘failure’. he is, in fact, the captain of the u21 team. he was used in as trade bait to help land amauri. he was trade bait because juve are already stacked with deep mids with the likes of sissoko, zanetti, marchisio and now poulsen. he was expendable and an attractive option for palermo.

yes, you are a foreigner. you live in spain and last time i checked spain was not part of italy. you may be confused with “hispania” which was indeed a roman province but that was 2000 years back. a lot has happened since then.

as for frisinone. you infact attempted to post a map that had that name (erroneous) to prove me wrong. being the brainless idiot you are, you chose to copy that name and insist on it only to shut your pussy flaps when an official map with description was posted for your education.