It’s Beginning to Look a Lot Like A Casualty Ward

Nocerino and not Ambrosini huh? Lippi and Ambro are just incompatible I guess…

As for the defender crisis, I swear to God: if I see Barzagli get the start against Georgia on Wednesday, I’m going to blow a gasket.

since this injury streak keeps rolling, i hope it hits toni and that other useless gila so we can actually call someone who cld actually score goals, u kno, like old fashionned strikers used to, i mean two goals in 1 match in 2 international competitions, just isnt enough, or is it mr Toni?
Now i d like to see some CASSANATA.

I’d rather have Lippi start in defense over Barzagli.

Aw shucks. Thanks a lot. With all these horrible injuries going around that are taking players out of league play for weeks, this is the first time I have been happy that Inter are not well represented with the Azzurri. Really, I think someone needs to burn some sage or bring in a priest or something.

can donadoni play defence … come on we need to rehab Roberto …

i cant understand this ridiculous decision by Lippi..by a micture of luck and divine interference and great play, we win the world cup and this fellow is almost behaving in a stupid way..Nocerino, the Juve flop over Ambrosini??Still not selecting cassano and persisting with finished goods Del Piero??this is just ridiculous…Ambrosini can also score goals , he is a great header of the ball as well, Nocerino is a joke compared to Ambrosini…if we fail, naturally Lippi wont be blamed much because he won us the 2006 world cup..The arrogance of the old man in still not learning his lessons and opting blindly for Juve rejects

I’d rather have a turd on legs on the field than Ambrosini. He is the single worst football player that Serie A, B, C1 or C2 have ever seen or indeed ever will.

Thank God Lippi doesn’t smoke weed and decided not to call him up.

John Silver, lol @ “turd on legs”…
I dont hate Ambro and appreciate his usual effort, but c’mon he should not be heralding in the buildup to WC2010. Nocerino was the perfect callup as vice-Gattuso, since I have hardly seen more similar players. He has energy, grit, tenacity, and is a never-say-die tackler (also the lack of ball/passing skills of Rino, but we can live with that).
Injuries to the veterans are the platform to start integrating future talent, not hand out food tokens to yesterday’s generation.
And those of you who think he was a flop at Juve, I wonder if you saw the limited appearances he did make for them? He was not bad at all. He just was not required in Ranieri’s crowded midfield.

John Silver, your statement reeks of ignorance especially combined with the fact that Ambro has more silverware than most clubs combined. You must be a Roma fan…

Some thoughts from Mr. Horncastle, a british columnist, on Toto DiNatale, very interesting stuff.

Reading Le Pagelle in yesterday’s Gazzetta dello Sport, I was intrigued to discover what the Italian Press thought of Antonio Di Natale, arguably the most underrated striker in modern football, who along with Gigi Buffon saved Italy’s bacon in Cyprus on Saturday night.

The Neapolitan was given 7.5, the second highest score, and the following report. “Two balls in the area. Two goals. He put pressure on the defence and was the only player not to lose his head. Impeccable.”

That wasn’t the end of it though. The rating concluded with a small yet significant reproof. “His teammates, don’t always follow him.” Well, that’s unsurprising given the treatment Di Natale has received while on international duty over the last two years. The player himself offered a frank description of his experiences in the aftermath of Euro 2008. He felt “seduced and abandoned.”

Adopted by Roberto Donadoni only to be dropped after a mediocre performance in Italy’s Euro 2008 opener against Holland, Di Natale was then brought into the side that played Spain in the quarter-final and missed a penalty. Now that’s how not to manage a player! Raise his hopes, dash them and then ask him to take an all-important spot-kick. West Ham fans beware.

And yet, the Udinese man didn’t feel sorry for himself, instead he set about proving his critics wrong, netting a brace in the Zebrette’s opening game of the 2008-09 campaign. One goal against Palermo was almost a carbon copy of Dennis Bergkamp’s World Cup `98 strike that floored Barry Davies and Argentina. On Saturday, Di Natale gave Italy the lead with a shot from nearly 30 yards, before bagging the winner with a neat finish at the far post.

It’s no wonder Luciano Spalletti, Di Natale’s mentor and Italy’s No 1 exponent of beautiful football, wants the Neapolitan at Roma. What’s more remarkable is that Inter, Milan and Juventus haven’t once thought about tempting Di Natale away from Udine. Italy’s other match winner on Saturday night, Buffon, is an admirer of the 29-year-old and not only respects him, but fears his scoring ability.

“Last September, Antonio scored twice in Ukraine and then in Turin,” said Buffon ahead of Juventus’ match against Udinese. “I am worried because there are too many coincidences here. Appetite comes from eating.”

The implication being that once you start scoring, you just can’t stop. Now, if Di Natale puts fear into the heart of the best goalkeeper in the world, isn’t it about time Italians rallied around this pint-sized genius who more than deserves to be considered among the world’s best strikers?

Johonna, both Inter and Milan can use the same sage for the defeneses riddled with inujury. You get the priest, they scare me, I will find the sage.

Having silverware doesn’t mean anything. Alessandro Birindelli has something like 6 Scudetti in his case but is he an elite defender? Hell no.

I have to agree with John on this one, Ambrosini is an incredibly average (if consistent) player, and if we’re relying on him in the Nazionale Italy does have problems. He’s the Tomasso Rocchi of the midfield.

Gianfranco, has anyone told you that your one-man declaration of war vs. AS Roma is getting old? Grow up. You keep dragging in Roma-related comments when there is no rhyme or reason. In fact, most Romanistas I know get along perfectly well with Milan fans, so I dont get you at all.
Also, your obsession with silverware reeks of someone who has never been a coach/manager of a team. You think putting a bunch of people who have club silverware (not even FIFA POY, mind you) on the pitch makes a winning team? Based on that theory, no one under 30 would make a top international team, for obvious reasons.

Alessio, since people are claiming Nocerino was a flop at Juve- would you agree? I am sure you watched the Juve games more minutely than the rest of us. I for one did not think he was bad at all- he was just surplus to requirements amongst a proven midfield.

My issue with Roma fans comes from this sense of entitlement of being considered a good club. You were the only club standing between Inter and the scudetto in the years of Serie A “dark ages” and point deductions and you could not even keep Inter from winning. That alone just reinforces the point that you are more in the vain of Fiorentina, Sampadoria and Napoli than Milan, Inter and Juve when it comes to club comparisons. A perrenial bridesmaid, and the same goes for your “elite” players, disagree with me if you like but that is the way I see it.

As for Ambrosini, he is a good player and much akin to your boy DDR. Good, very solid player, with flashes of greatness, but for some reason DDR gets the second coming of christ namesake while Ambro is called turd on legs, it doesnt fit for me. Reeks of vendetta the otherway…

my issue with gianfranco is that he’s repeatedly confirms what a blabbering idiot he is with a chip on each shoulder. maybe you could learn to drop at least one to make room for logic and thoughfulness in whatever you write. not only is it old, like mimo stated but it also surpasses the bounds of patheticism by miles.

question for the almighty and all-knowing gianfranco: where exactly was milan during the “dark ages”? (should have been in serie c with the other scars of italian calcio…especially considering milan’s prowess for scandles)…or are the “dark ages” specific to only certain teams out of convenience for your ‘arguement’? also, how exactly has milan done compared to roma in serie a standings over the past decade….even while you had that corrupt bald fuck as the president of your team and, simultaneously vice president of the league?

let’s see if milan manage to do a little better this season with no cl hanging over their heads and a 60 million+ player upgrade from last season.

*scandals

Gianfranco, havent you ever wondered whether your “Roma fans” category is a sweeping generalization?
Just like every Milan fan does not agree on the same points, every Roma fan doesnt either. For some, it may be enough to say that we spend and pay considerably less than some of the other clubs but are a perennial contender. (Kinda like thinking, so what if I am the perennial bridesmaid, at least I get invited to the wedding.) And your hatred towards the fans seems to cloud your judgement even when you assess Roma players. For example, declaring Ambro and DDR as players of equal capbility. I wont bother responding to that.
For some others like me, yes, it was a big blow to choke in the scudetto race when Inter were inviting us to go get it. And no, it is not enough to come second. But you cant logically call Roma a bad or mid-table club, before it has been proven. If Roma are in the same category as Viola, Napoli etc (all clubs that I think have good potential), then why didnt they come second and cut it close for the scudetto? And what are you calling a “Sense of entitlement”? You would rather have fans of a club which is competing in for the title for the last few years, give up and say- our club is crap, so why are we rooting for it?
Stop being such an elitist.
Thank God, the world’s political leaders dont have the same attitude- i.e, U.S.A. is richest and most powerful, so America deserves to treat other smaller countries like crap and their citizens are not equal as human beings. Hmm, well, maybe they do.

Mimo, the problem is fair majority of the Roma Fans on these blogs, ruin it for the rest of you and cause these generalizations. I have had many an excellent discussion with Gabriella, Bashar, and even Chris, but there are few of your compatriots who do not take well to criticism on any level and revert to personal attacks and strange fan boy love posts claiming DDR the god of life, you can’t say that isnt weird…

Milan was deducting 8 pts a few season back and I cant help but think the difference if they started at zero that year instead of minus -8, while last season was a disgrace by Milan’s standards and if you read my blog, you would know that I did not take that loss to lightly. But when the select few irrational Roma fans go around my blog, the Inter blog, and this blog and claim every thing great is Roman, it is unwarranted. You are in the same pot fighting for the top as every other club. I respect your views, and appreciate reading your comments, but you have to understand that the elitism comes from Roma fans as well. Heck we have Udinese and Chievo blogs on this site written by Roma fans, how would you feel if your club’s blog was written by a Milan fan!?

And also, Gianfranco, some of us Roma fans and some of your (more logical, fun-loving and less vendetta-driven) Milanistas used to have some interesting discussions on both the blogs before. Not that you would care, but I miss that. I have liked Milan for its play and class (except for their role in the “dark ages” of italian football) for quite some time and like to keep up with what is going on at the club. I am sure you are not the only reason, but because of your continuously running, hatred-churning blind bias machine, the Milan blog often becomes a singularly unpleasant read for some people who dont buy into your agenda. Just a random fact I am putting out there, that no one (and least of all, you) would care about.

Mimo, I know you dont write the Roma blog, but what would you call that? Your captain is referred to as Jesus and your coach is given imperial status, and you want to claim that the Milan blog is blind hatred bias machine?

I dont even refrain from bashing my own teams players, heck I have been fighting the Dinho signing for months and you want to call me biased?

Gianfranco, sorry but I do not get your logic. Fine, there are many regular Roma fans on the offside who post things that you dont like. So, lets say that is a sample of 20 people (an overstatement, I am sure). That’s it, 20 Roma fans you cant tolerate!! And that justifies you putting down all things related to AS ROMA, including I am guessing their current players, coach, fans (which I assure you is waaaay more than 20).
I have no other word for this other than petulance and immaturity.
Your tone and comments are getting on my nerves, no secret here. So, I should start saying that Pirlo (a Milan hero) should be dropped for Aquilani? Is that your logic?

“Mimo, I know you dont write the Roma blog, but what would you call that? Your captain is referred to as Jesus and your coach is given imperial status, and you want to claim that the Milan blog is blind hatred bias machine? ”

Gianfranco, heard of the little thing called freedom of speech and expression? Even among Roma fans, I know people who think it is at best- amusing, at the worst- ridiculous/blasphemous to call Totti Jesus etc. But people can call whoever whatever they want, it is not illegal slander or libel. Just like I am not saying that you should be sued for the blind hatred you seem to have towards Roma. And if the nicknames are too much for you to digest, just ignore them. They are not hurling hatred at other clubs, unlike some of the things you have bene saying.

“Mimo, I know you dont write the Roma blog, but what would you call that? Your captain is referred to as Jesus and your coach is given imperial status, and you want to claim that the Milan blog is blind hatred bias machine?”

how is saying that totti is “jesus” or spalletti “the grand imperial poobah” considered hatred toward milan? sure they are hyperbolie’s but last time i checked it’s called being a passionate fan, or part of a fandom experience that makes up a big part of following calcio, and certainly a far cry from ‘hate’ of another team along your lines. of course, that may be a bit foreign concept for you since youre so consumed by deriding other, clearly superior players or dropping statistics about silverware.

Few of the Romainstas on theoffside are even Italian..Its funny that many of them argue with me because Im Siciliano and fight for Palermo who in their words “have never won anything.” And then I find out their Indian or Danish…friggin joke

As for as Ambrosini, if he wont be there for WC2010, whats it gonna hurt to have Nocerino (who will) fill in the gap.

“Gianfranco, heard of the little thing called freedom of speech and expression?”

Funny I have, yet you seem to have little regard for mine…

KJ, I am not even arguing for the inlcusion of Ambrosini, in fact not even once in these comments. i would matter of factly prefer Nocerino because I think he is a solid piece of the puzzle for the future and his perfomances at Toulon and even the Olympics, which didnt end so well, showed that.

uhm, how does anyone’s nationality or ethnicity diminish their right to argue against you about palermo? wtf is the relevance?

nocerino will play second fiddle to de rossi for a dm spot in the lineup.

As the writer for the Inter board, I can attest to the fact that many many (ie most) of the commentators on the Roma board absolutely revert to personal attacks and infantile behavior whenever anyone writes anything that is not “I Love Totti.” It wears on my nerves and, much like Gianfranco I think, makes me a little more defensive than I would normally be. But I digress.

Gian, you should be happy that Lippi does not want Ambro – can Milan really absorb another injured player? That camp is a death machine.

the bandwagoners, lamagicaaaaa

the bandwagoners? you mean like the bulk of the ‘fans’ (on this side of the atlantic) that chose to support palermo once they made it up to serie a?….not including a true fan like yourself, of course.

regardless, if you are of italian background or indian background, it should matter little. an ‘italian’ could just as easily be categorized as a bandwagoner or ‘glory hunter’. also, i would think that there would be a disproprtionate amount more of those types that follow inter, milan or juve. the marketing machine, via nike and adidas, have ‘groomed’ a whole generation of these types of fans – a team marketed for world-wide consumption.

Johonna, while I couldn’t care less about Inter as a club but it is your club. You are entitled to root for it. I can understand that some Roma commentators may be writing what can be called personal attacks (which I do not support, but that’s just me). I am not sure if I am giving you too much credit here, but I didnt notice you doing a Gianfranco at every opportunity re: any topic involving kicking a ball. Meaning dragging in Roma into every discussion even when it is irrelevant, and bashing everything related to the club. If you track back on this latest Gianfranco rant, you will see that the discussion was about someone saying that Ambro does not deserve a call over Nocerino. Then of course, predictably, it became “Thinking Ambro is not good enough = You must be a insane zealot Roma fan”. Draw your own conclusions.

KJ, funny how you think that the so-called “bandwagoners” would get on Roma’s bandwagon..the club that apparently is just a underachieving club masquerading as a contender.

“I can understand that some Roma commentators may be writing what can be called personal attacks (which I do not support, but that’s just me).”

–Use the Archives and take a looksee at the four months of Roma abuse on the Inter boards. By the way, Roma still lost the Scudetto, which some how made the RomaFucks scream louder… I love it when they do that.:)

“Meaning dragging in Roma into every discussion even when it is irrelevant, and bashing everything related to the club. If you track back on this latest Gianfranco rant, you will see that the discussion was about someone saying that Ambro does not deserve a call over Nocerino.”

–This was the statement that started the current Gian “rant”, that some would call “well deserved”:

“I’d rather have a TURD ON LEGS on the field than Ambrosini. He is the single WORST football player that Serie A, B, C1 or C2 have ever seen or indeed ever will.”

–Here’s the next statement that occurred before Gian said a word and by the way, it’s by the “Logical” One:
“John Silver, lol @ “turd on legs”…”

–That was me tracking back. My own conclusion: you’re a hypocrite.

–Sorry Gian, you don’t need me to fight your battles, you do fine on your own, but lowlife whiners make me wanna laugh at them.

“Johonna, while I couldn’t care less about Inter as a club BUT IT IS YOUR CLUB. You are entitled to root for it. I can understand that some Roma commentators may be writing what can be called personal attacks”

–Translation: It’s okay if RomaFucks do whatever they want to , because they are RomaFucks.

But Gian not supporting every single Roma player on the blue earth even at the expense of his own? Unacceptable!
Gian defending a player that plays for HIS team? Unacceptable!
Gian getting tired of every blog written by a Roma, every Roma supporter trashing everyone else’s blog and having the nerve to speak out about it? UNACCEPTABLE!!

mad, your post perfectly defines a “lowlife whiner”, complete with series of point-form notes and attempt at quarterbacking the anti-roma sentiment.

of course your personal attacks on “romafucks” is justified…lol…not that anyone can really take a limp dick like you all that seriously anyway.

my own conclusion: you’re a hypocrite.

MAD, kudos to your selective tracking back. The phrase “turd on legs” is funny in a crude way. As you condescendingly point me out as the “Logical One”- I go on to say that I like Ambro, which of course, you choose not to track. And, please note that you are the first to start using profanities in this discussion (ala, RomaFucks etc.) Ever tried a discussion that does not sound like a high-school cafeteria fight between macho posers?

“mad, your post perfectly defines a “lowlife whiner”, complete with series of point-form notes and attempt at quarterbacking the anti-roma sentiment.”

–I don’t have to, nor am I quarterbacking it. I am just adding my two cents. No surprise that SOME people don’t like it that I do.

“my own conclusion: you’re a hypocrite”

–Boy, you sure got me. Somehow I managed to take my hate of Roma supporters and… do what exactly? Ridicule them/you and have a laugh at them/you? This has me a hypocrite? I would try a dictionary, first before you tackle any words you don’t recognize.

“MAD, kudos to your selective tracking back. The phrase “turd on legs” is funny in a crude way. As you condescendingly point me out as the “Logical One”- I go on to say that I like Ambro, which of course, you choose not to track. And, please note that you are the first to start using profanities in this discussion (ala, RomaFucks etc.) Ever tried a discussion that does not sound like a high-school cafeteria fight between macho posers?”

– I didn’t have to be selective. I just did as you said I should do to see how Gian entered his rant. I never made any claims to logic or politeness. My politeness with you folks went away a long time ago. Now I just like to laugh at you

MAD, also I believe the word “Unacceptable” was just a product of your imagination in this context. Gianfranco’s stance was called old, pathetic, petulant, immature etc. “Unacceptable” means we have a legal right to decide what is acceptable- which we dont. So, it is just opinion.

Uhmm, who is “you folks”? If you use that phrase to define a race, it is called racist. Wonder what the word is in the football context…

mimo: I was just summing up the ganging up on Gian from the gallery. You’ll notice I think the lack of quote marks that show that I am not in fact quoting anyone.

I know that you folks like to police the area and squash any dissent, but as I just said, I was summing up the mood. If you don’t like it, don’t like it.

Well, who do you think I mean? Say, weren’t you just posting on a board that had the phrase, “…those Intermerda…”? Did you say anything then and there about bigotry, or are you just looking for a way to take a poke at me?

Now, I have to laugh..”Ganging up” by who- me and lamagica? So now two of us make a gang vs. the rest of the “good” folks? No point in this discussion. The only reason I entered into a discussion with Gianfranco is because he is the Milan blogger, and I like reading most of the italian blogs. But lately, he is pushing his anti-roma agenda everywhere, which is annoying and boring.

MAD, I have no idea what you are referring to. I havent posted anywhere relating to a discussion on “those Intermerda”..Or were you talking to someone else? Pull it together, will you?

Mimo, the Roman agenda on this entire blog has gone to far. This Italy page is written by Julian who is extremely good at keeping his Roma fandom at bay, and which is why I still read his posts as soon as they come up. But the Chievo and Udinese blogs say things to the effect of I will root for this club unless they play Roma, or please score goals but not agaisnt Roma…you didnt answer my earlier questions of how you would like it if your club blog was done by a Milan fan?

mad – again, i hate to have to do all the work for your lazy ass but i believe the “hypocrite” term was extended to you since you started your diatribe quoting the emotionally wounded in this blog regarding personal insults extended toward the interisti in their blog.

Mimo you can be critical all you want, but please dont remove your own folks from the guilt that you are throwing around.

As boring as all the pro-Roma Jesus Imperial King Chosen-One agenda?

Oh and I think that it’s interesting that you labelled those arguing against yourselves the “good” folks. I certainly don’t make distinctions like that.

“you didnt answer my earlier questions of how you would like it if your club blog was done by a Milan fan?”
I would not like it, but how is this relevant again?

…and then you spewed out the “romafuck” gem of yours..lol. that really cuts deep.

“MAD, I have no idea what you are referring to. I havent posted anywhere relating to a discussion on “those Intermerda”..Or were you talking to someone else? Pull it together, will you?”

You just today posted on a Roma Blog that had people referring to the “Intermerda” when referring to people not necessarily associated with the team itself. That is, us the Inter supporters. I did not see you chastising your own group in the matter so you obviously have no problem when your own disparage a group of people indiscriminately.

But you did have a problem when I did the same and you witnessed it. That means that you are not exactly consistent with your criticism.

Pull it together, will you?

Well, you called us on our “ganging up” (TWO whole members currently in the aforementioned scary gang, btw)..so we must be ganging up on the good guys, no? (since I havent heard of say, Mother Teresa’s gang). Or do I watch too many movies?

the “roman agenda”…now that takes the cake. honestly, how fucking small are you ‘men’ in real life. grow a sack!

“mad – again, i hate to have to do all the work for your lazy ass but i believe the “hypocrite” term was extended to you since you started your diatribe quoting the emotionally wounded in this blog regarding personal insults extended toward the interisti in their blog.”

The work is for yourself. The only people I have quoted are the Roma people.

The Roma people started this, today, as I have pointed out.

The RomaFucks have started shit on the Inter board since February of this year.

There is no moral high ground for RomaFucks. They started all their own problems.

This is the last time I’ll make this clear for you,I can’t be a hypocrite if I do not contradict myself. I am amazingly clear on my stance on RomaFucks. If you don’t know it, that is your problem.

“Well, you called us on our “ganging up” (TWO whole members currently in the aforementioned scary gang, btw)..so we must be ganging up on the good guys, no? (since I havent heard of say, Mother Teresa’s gang). Or do I watch too many movies?”

2 against 1 is ganging up. And I think you definitely watch to many movies.

That should be february of last year

MAD, since apparently you dont mind tracking back- why dont you pull out a few comments I made in the last few days about the negativity on the Roma blog being a downer? I have better things to do than monitor commentators and every word they use. But I hold the bloggers (incld. Chris, btw) to a higher standard. Perhaps, too much to ask?

Romanistas on this blog, as a whole, are fan boys…

they have little to no knowledge of calcio

they like to slander everyone, but when it comes to them, can’t handle it

so all in all, try to ignore them..

I love how you complain about this:

“…and then you spewed out the “romafuck” gem of yours..lol. that really cuts deep.”

and then you say this:

“the “roman agenda”…now that takes the cake. honestly, how fucking small are you ‘men’ in real life. grow a sack!”

It makes me happy that people like you don’t like me.

actually, it’s not my problem at all that you are a hypocrite. it’s also not my problem that youre too dense that you can’t figure out what the term means when its presented to you in black and white.

mad – who ever said i dont like you? i dont know you. youre a sniveling little bitch but that doesnt mean i dont like you.

oh, and it wasnt a ‘complaint’, mad. it was an observation on the extreme creativity you have in your ‘insults’.

“actually, it’s not my problem at all that you are a hypocrite. it’s also not my problem that youre too dense that you can’t figure out what the term means when its presented to you in black and white.”

I still haven’t contradicted myself… All I see is an accusation that tries to shift blame… I like to make fun of Roma people… mimo is a Roma person…

thank god you have a little “posted from canada” so we can discount your comment or not read it all together

awe c’mon, peanut, come out from behind your facade. lol..it makes me laugh to see people taking shots at a player and thinking it’s somehow an insult to me or any other romanista. it’s okay big boy, i can take the slander but clearly you cant by having to disguise yourself.

facade, what do you think lamagica is?

case and point

Oh my dog! Can I suggest something? Maybe we start a new forum, A FIGHT CLUB and have arguments there? There’s no point in littering this forum.

nice. are you by chance related to that little shit stuck in my shoe tread, kj? lmao…cue up more hockey references….those insults are running a close second to mad’s. someone is laughing here, alright…lol!

yeah, peanut, you must be new here, right? long time reader, first time poster blah blah…

piece of work, kj.

i dont get it…is that an insult

no, of course you havent, mad, of course you havent. you know, if i close my eyes, it’s actually nightime.

well, peanut, where exaclty have you been all this time? i believe that’s the first time i’ve seen that username ANYWHERE on these blogs. i’ve been going by that name since i’ve been posting here.

i was simply pre-empting your predictable ‘long time reader, first time poster’ response to justify the ‘new’ user.

get it yet?

no, i don’t get it…remember, I am totti’s brain after all

Well, I’m off, come back with something better then, “uh huh!” will you?

well, if you actually were totti’s brain, i guess you’d actually have more purpose in life, kj.

is that directed at me, mad? if so, it might be your turn to enlighten me.

la magica , you’re so darn smart…i’ve always wanted to know how to read and write, can you help me?

baby steps, peanut. ask your inner kj or mad for some initial mentoring.

MAD, I cant believe you have to consistently put up with this grief, and somewhat feel responsible this time around. But the fact that this same type of discussion has taken place here, at the Inter blog, and almost everyday at the Roma blog just reinforces my point of the Roman Agenda, heck Johonna even said it as well.

As for you MIMO, the reason I brought that is up is manifest the fact that Roman Agenda extends to all corners of the Serie A blog and we are constantly forced to read the non-biased, intelligent football discussion that is so constanlty churned out. I hope you sense my sarcasm.

it is incredible to see the ignorance and false perception and blind admiration the Roma fans have for their team/players..iam also a Roman by birth, iam a Totti die hard fan ever since i first set my eyes on him but iam sensible enugh to acknowledge that Rona as a team CANT even make a serious impact in Europe with its present players.man united of all people humilated Roma for 2 seasons!!Milan had virtually embarrasses the same man united when it won the CL in 2006..
well, Milan is under a transition and i must admit that the management again got it all wrong when they signed Sheva, Dinho, Senderos this term , here we r talking about the national team and Nocerino´s selection is definately nonsense, preferring him over Ambrosini is scandalous!!Nocerino cant even defend like Ambro, Nocerino has a very weak header, Ambrosini can rise like a phoenix, unexpetdely and score a goal when least expected..iam certainly disappointed in Lippi for persisting with uselesssssss Barzagli, ignoring Cassano……and for selecting spent force Del Piero..i repeat, Del Piero will go down as a Juve legend but he has never delivered for Azzurri

MIMO, my new found friend and blogging advisor, please advise on my posts that you found to be a bit non-Roma friendly, I would like to know which ones they were to try and avoid these things in the future. It would really be helpful. Much Appreciated.

that’s right, porchetta, i forgot you’re from FRIS(I)NONE, caput di un’altro mundi.

so roma wasnt able to get past the eventual cl winners last year, huh. how exaclty did milan, inter and lazio do in comparison? i mean roma’s players werent able to do the job but certainly big-spending teams like inter and milan should have, right. hmmm, my records indicate otherwise. i believe roma was busy beating real madrid in both legs while milan and inter were being ravaged by liverpool and arsenal respectively.

Roma cant even defeat a 10 man Napoli the other day!!i mean napoli looked certain to win that day!!i dont think Roma will even mount a serious challenge for Scudetto this season..they must and should strengthen their defence if they have any hopes of being in the elite..BTW, De Rossi is a great player but he succked against Cyprus, it was bewildering to see him afraid of Cypriot midfielders and trying to avoid their tackles..also he missed many passes and atleast twice gave away the ball easily and Buffon saved the day..only with the introduction of Gattusso, things calmed down as Rino yelled and gesticulated at Cyprus players and urgued his own compatriots to regroup

sorry, porky, it’s fr(i)sinone you were from. regardless, i’m still having a hard time locating it on the map of italy.

lamagica, u dont even cease to amuse me any more, u r pointing that spell mistake of mine always..as u see, iam not FOREIGNER like u, English is not my first language..u and ur likes r all GLORY hunters, not real Italians for me..well.u may be an Italian fan, i just advise u to keep the decency and decorum of the board

Does anyone else find it kind of crazy that it’s the Roma fans who cause most of the trouble? I don’t know if they’re the ones who can take all the blame, either. I’ve seen a fair amount of Roma hate as well.

I absolutely love Roma, but I’ve said it time and time again-I’m Italian, my passion is the national team, and that what I blog about. Club differences absolutely have to be put aside when talking about national teams. I’m sure Inter fans love Ibra, but when Sweden plays Italy, who do you root for? Let’s not forget that players aren’t always the same for country as they are their clubs. Look at Totti, Del P, all of the English national team…

As far as the Ambro debate, I’m not a fan mostly because I feel like there’s younger guys who can do as good-if not better- of a job than he can. Given an choice between Nocer and Ambro, I’ll take Nocer any day.

la magica, u r a joke..one day u claim urself to be a sicilian, now yu r a canadian italian..u r a Plastic

I hate Matrix and I dont necessarily like Inter, but the ejection was not proper and certainly not warranted. Even then it took a last gasp effort from Steven Gerrard to seal away Inter’s faith. Milan was not as fortunate but I wouldn’t call it ravaged, ravaged would more like what happen to Roma few years back, but I dont want to bring up bad memories for you. You beat Real Madrid, the same Real who thunders through the CL every year? The same Real that strikes fear in the hearts of clubs across the globe? Dont overinflate your success, it doesnt make you look to good.

but de rossi isfair-skinned, blond and blue-eyed while gattuso is olive-skinned, brown-haired dark-eyed product of the mezzogiorno. it goes against everyhting youve been preaching around here…i.e. white is right.

Julian, it is funny because I agree with on Nocerino as I said earlier. He deserves his shot, and I think he can really prove his capablilty. Ambro would have been fine as well, but in two years this team cant rely on Ambro…

no, i believe YOU claimed i was sicilian. just because i dont see any harm in being sicilian whatsoever nor feel the need to deny it, doesnt mean i am. in fact, i dont need to tell you fuck all. i will just ridicule your warped sense of the world and continue to laugh.

as for frisinone. you infact attempted to post a map that had that name (erroneous) to prove me wrong. being the brainless idiot you are, you chose to copy that name and insist on it only to shut your pussy flaps when an official map with description was posted for your education.

gianfranco, I agree. I think that we should start rolling out the guys who are probably gonna play in South Africa. So really, guys like Rossi, Giovinco, Nocer, etc. should all start being introduced to the team. There’d be nothing worse than having the first time they play on the full squad be in the actual tourney. They need to get used to the atmosphere and pressure, and the sooner they do, the better.

english may not be your first language but “frosinone” is not an english word.

yes, you are a foreigner. you live in spain and last time i checked spain was not part of italy. you may be confused with “hispania” which was indeed a roman province but that was 2000 years back. a lot has happened since then.

they couldnt even rely on ambrosini this past euro and world cup 06. obviously italy cant and shouldnt rely on him in two years. he can thank donadoni for his cameo at euro.

why should i have the ‘decency’ to agree with you or any other person i dont share the same opinions with? just because you blindly follow exerpts from HOLLYWOOD movies and try to pass them off as ‘the truth’, doesnt mean i should blindly agree with anyone for the sake of agreeing. one day you’ll realise that the most humans would rather use their brain to think critically rather than taking your approach and pounding yours against a keyboard and hoping to make some sense.

as for nocerino, maybe you should consider a couple of things first. nocerino was not a ‘failure’. he is, in fact, the captain of the u21 team. he was used in as trade bait to help land amauri. he was trade bait because juve are already stacked with deep mids with the likes of sissoko, zanetti, marchisio and now poulsen. he was expendable and an attractive option for palermo.

i would call it ‘ravaged’. arsenal run milan right off the park in both games.

the inter-pool aggregate was 3-0. the fate was sealed in the first game.

yes, roma beat the spanish league winners. there is no ‘over-inflating’, that is a fact.

the fact that roma lost to man u doesnt bother me in the least. they are a powerhouse team and went on to win the double. there is no shame in that, considering our team’s means. the issue, however, was how roma compared to the rest and i clearly pointed out that they did better than anyone else representing serie a. hardly a point to debate because it is a fact.

thanks to you, porchetta, the wart on my ass feels a lot smarter today. what is the relevance of this historical rhetoric? were we or were we not talking about what the italian teams did in the recent cl tourney? did that somehow seep through that collander brain of yours?

again, i dont care if you want to bring up the 7-1 defeat. you want to take a single game and use that to define a team’s 81 year history, then go ahead. as for the ‘most embarrassing moment(s) of italian football’, i would probably place the recent calciopoli situation (and the string of other corrupttion scandals) as the most embarrassing moment(s). remember how proud of italy and italian calcio you felt on the eve of the last world cup? remember the derogatory remarks in the media? remember the humiliation when tv announcers constantly diminished the italian game to nothing more than wwe wrestling? exactly. i wont even comment on how embarrassing that must have been as a juventino or milanista (particularly since the milanista also had the added luxury of participating in the cl thanks to having greased even more palms – after all, the only cheated a little bit).

there is nothing shameful in losing a game through legitimate means. there is a hell of a lot more shame in ‘winning’ through corrupt means. fortunately, roma wasnt ‘capable’ to play with the big boys of serie a when it came to that. you are right, we are certainly underachievers…that is, when it comes to corruption, threats, bullying, collusion, buying off smaller clubs and using corporate conflicts of interest as our game plan to win serie a titles. personally, as a fan of the glorious giallorossi, i can live with that ‘underachieving’ tag quite comfortably. i certainly don’t expect someone of your great intellect and thoughtfulness to agree with this, though. thank god.