Veni Vidi Vici (reprise)

Hi Josh! Hi Jane!

How are you all? I’m great! Now that the Fall is here, I dont play soccer anymore so I’m going to the gym all the time. I try to go at least 5 times a week.

Other than that, it’s harvest season in Canada. I’ve been marinating beets, eggsplants and making tomatoe sauce. YummY!

Josh, you are right, I think Ronaldhino will get it. It isnt in FiFa’s nature to give something to Italy (even if they would get the most votes). I just hope Zidane doesnt get it. I used to like him so much cause he is such a good player, but after his fake apology on French t.v…… well, that is all I have to say….

To put the cherry on top, Materazzi got sanctioned too. So ridiculous! But I wont get started on that either.

I would’ve like Pirlo to get it too.

So, predictions are that Inter will win the Scudetto. I’m still hoping for my man Totti to win. However, I love Gattuso so I’d like to see him go far too. How do you think AC Milan will do?

Do you think Manchester United will win it all?

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Sunny Friday night ‘p’ as a fart and you haven’t signed in for ages hope you are ok have a good holiday off to Aussie tomorrow so will checkin when I get back take care lots of love xxx

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Yo Catherine,
What is it? (Colloquialsim for “how are you?”) 5 times a week eh??? So that’s your secret. Are you sure you don’t want me to post your pictures? Is Sunny still going to Montreal? Won’t that be fun! Has anyone explained the wood-chipper business to you? I know you asked about it a while back…. Funny, because “Fargo” was just on tv last night….lol.
Have you seen the Flyers lately? Christ almighty…. Manchester United are, and please pardon my harshtalk, scum. But hadn’t we all had agreed about that?
Actually, I prefer them to Chelsea (I used to pull for the Blues when they had Zola, but then they sold out, started buying championships like everyone else….i.e., except for dearest Roma…we couldn’t buy a referee let alone a championship!! lol). You know what else is weird? I used to support Arsenal above all (to be sure, we’re talking premiership here). But just like your experience with Zidane, I’ve had a similar experience with Henry. — ever since he dove against Spain to send France through on the resulting free kick? Remember that? God, I must have written about it ten times during the world cup–> do you remember how Viera celebrated the goal by doing “the Klinnsman dive” and the whole team joined in? What bastards. I know you’re French Canadian, but capital F the French. So when I see these flaky French footballers on the pitch, I get agita. what can I say?
But to answer your question, I don’t think United are there just yet. I think they’ll finish second, unfortunately.
Gotta go, talk to you all soon,
Josh

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Yo Josh!

What is it? LOL. Yep, 5 times a week, sometimes everyday. depends on what I have to do. But I always do different things, aerobics, swimming, treadmill, wateraerobix, tae-box etc. So it doesnt get too too boring.

I dont like them either (Man U). I’m sick of everyone saying they are going to win.

As for France, they are BY FAR by very least fav. team. I dont even like any of their city teams. I dont like them period. Franch Canadians who are educated and know politics, will greatly dislike France and everything that comes with it.

I dislike Henry almost as much as I dislike Zidane. Remember his fainting spell at the beginning of the last match? I’m still convinced they were all on ephedrine or coke or something. They are guilty unless proven otherwise. I’d be willing ro post an international article on my theory and see how it feels for them to get negative media for a change.

People like to call Italian divers but look at Henry. That’s world-class diving. They only players I remotely like are Ribery (good player) and Trezeguet (hee hee, he came through for Italy hee hee).

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I dont know about Sunny. Havent heard from him. But if he did come, I’d go meet him for sure.

The flyers are doing terrible. I’m so disappointed. They truly are one of my favs. I’m finding Buffalo extremely exciting this year. They are really good and have a solid team. I find the Red Wings are also doing poorly. IT is definitely not what I expected since Hasek is back on the team.

LOL – The woodchipper. I havent seen Fargo. Maybe I’ll rent it next weekend.

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Quote”Franch Canadians who are educated and know politics, will greatly dislike France and everything that comes with it.”

No Comment.

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Dear Catherine,
One day perhaps, you will explain me what is your personal problem with”France and everything that comes with it.”

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My personal problem with France?

I have several.

First and foremost, I must state that I am 100% French Canadian and my parents or relatives for that matter do not speak a word of English.

I dislike French politics. I hate Chiraq. I think he is a scumbag.

I hate how French sports work (remember Suriya Bonali at the Olymics)

I hate that France acts like saints and taint other countries’ image. they think they are better than everyone else.

France was awarded a lot of suspicious calls as well – why doesnt any one talk about those? I’ll tell you why: CHIRAQ!

I hate that France thinks they are the rulers of the French language and above Belgium and Quebec.

I hate the French people immigrate to Quebec and want it to separate from Canada (separatism is historically and idea from France – not Canada – not Quebec).

I know a lot of cool French people. I’m sure you are cool. But before every body goes on dissing Americans and Italins, they should look at themselves first. France is far from being perfect (Canada is in the same boat).

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Dear Catherine,

I will reply to the others points of your greatly hatred for France later, ’cause i ‘m tired.
Quote”I hate the French people immigrate to Quebec and want it to separate from Canada (separatism is historically and idea from France – not Canada – not Quebec).”
What do you call exactly “French people immigrate to Quebec”?
what i know of Canada ’s History is that a country founded by French and English immigrants. But may be i’m wrong.
Quote” Separatism is Historically and idea from France-not Canada-not Quebec).
The first who want “separatism were the English of Canada, no? when french represented the majority, no?
France wanted separatism for Quebec against english canadians and french québecois if i understood you? Explain me how France managed to do it against all the Canadian population? And what was his interest? Ah the evil powerful of France!!! We swim in total paranoia.
May be it could help you to say less bullshits.http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada
Canada – Wikipédia

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Thierry – look up the history on Rene Levesque. I dont have time to teach you.

Second, French people born in France who CURRENTLY (or in the last 25 years have immigrated) immigrate to Qc.

The French québecois have roots in France but are not French.

A quote from your own site:
“le mouvement souverainiste québécois a continué à défendre sa position affirmant que la culture canadienne-française n’est pas considérée à sa juste valeur en politique canadienne étant donné une majorité nettement plus grande de Canadiens-Anglais”
This idea came from ReneLevesque’S good friend in France.
“His first speech in this function in France was, however, more successful, leading him to a better appreciation of the French intelligentsia and of French culture.“

To boot, Canada goes under the English (from English) monarchy. France does not (did not) like that. And they influenced French Quebeckers to think that they were not respected.

Now, for any tourists who do not speak French, beware when coming to Quebec because more of your service will be in French (monlingual individuals) and all the signs, menus etc are 100% in French. That is what is of our apparent French/English country.

At least in France you can get service in English, right Thierry?

No, it is not the English that wanted to sparate and it is not them that want to separate now. It is the French. They even have OLF (Office de la langue francaise – run by an immigrant from France and is not a government body) that fine businesses of over 50 employees of their advertisement, instructions etc. are not 100% in French. These are matters of thousands of dollars and it very discrimatory to any English speaking individuals who want to have a large business.

Furthermore, any other native that immigrates here (be it Arab, Asian, etc.) is forced to go to school in French and does not have the choice.

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http://www.uni.ca/library/ascot.html

“Certain statements by [President de Gaulle] tend to encourage the small minority of our population whose aim is to destroy Canada: and as such, they are unacceptable to the Canadian people and its government.”
- Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson, July 22, 1967

(P.S. dont test my knowledge of politics…)

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Operation Ascot: France’s betrayal of Canada

notes by Carlos Roldan, Ph.D.

A growing body of evidence indicates Charles De Gaulle undertook covert operations in Quebec during his years as President of France with the aim of destabilizing Canada, using the various nationalist and separatist movements in Quebec as well as terrorist organizations in the United States. These subversive activities were known under the rubric of . Assistance et Cooperation Technique. or . Operation Ascot. .

Jacques Foccart, France. s Chief of Intelligence dispatched agents of the Service de Documentation, d. Enquête et de Contre Espionnage(SDECE), Philippe Rossillon, Edgar Chaumette, Jean-Luc Gaillardere and Tom Bailby to Quebec with the specific purpose of developing and fomenting the growth of separatist movements such as those of Adrien Arcand, Pierre Bourgault. s RIN, and the FLQ. In addition, De Gaulle also instructed the recruitment and infiltration of agents in both the Quebec and Canadian civil service. These responsibilities were handled mainly by Xavier Deniau and Philippe Rossillon.

In September 1968 the Royal Commission of Inquiry on National Security secretly submitted its final report to the Government of Pierre Elliott Trudeau(a heavily doctored version of this report was released in 1969). It identified possible foreign intervention in the Quebec separatist movement. Prime Minister Trudeau then raised the issue in the House of Commons, directly identifying Philippe Rossillon as . a sort of secret agent. . A separate, secret, RCMP report to the Prime Minister, parts of which were leaked to Canadian Press, identified Francois Dorlot, Michèle Duclos and Louise Beaudoin, among others, as subversives

SDECE agents in Paris sheltered and even financed FLQ members, arranging further training in terrorist camps in Algeria, Jordan, Turkey and eastern Europe. Philippe Rossillon acted as a conduit for the coordination of such activities. Recruited back in Quebec by Philippe Rossillon, Francois Dorlot and Louise Beaudoin sheltered Francois Mario Bachand at their home in Paris up to a few days before his assassination. Bachand was scheduled to depart for terrorist camp training but never made it. Police investigation of his murder was thwarted by SDECE to the point that the RCMP insisted the matter be handled through Interpol and not the French police. To this day, justice for Mario Bachand, a young Canadian citizen murdered in France has been thus denied. The perpetrators of his assassination have long been well known to the authorities in both France and Canada and their identities withheld.

Louise Beaudoin returned to Quebec and entered, in 1972, the Quebec Liberal government of Robert Bourassa as executive assistant to the Deputy Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs Claude Morin. Upon their defection to the PQ, she continued as a chief aide to Claude Morin, now Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs in Rene Levesque. s PQ government. Once identified as a French spy in Canada, Philippe Rossillon returned to the service of Charles de Gaulle, reporting directly to him and was put in charge of France. s High Commission for the Expansion of the French Language Abroad -with offices in Matignon Palace.

Canadian military intelligence kept visual and auditory surveillance on Philippe Rossillon who returned regularly to Canada to meet with PQ officials, particularly PQ regional director Louise Beaudoin, Francois Dorlot and Jacques Parizeau. Their findings generated great concern and the launch of an unprecedented and decisive action by the RCMP under the missive of Prime Minister Trudeau.

In a CBC interview held August 27-28, 1981, RCMP Director of Secret Service John Starnes, disclosed the findings of Operation HAM, initiated in August 1972 and executed on the 8th and 9th of January 1973. In this action, the RCMP broke into premises where confidential financial statements as well as membership lists of the Parti Quebecois were stored. These data were copied and subsequently replaced. The aim was to establish the degree of PQ penetration by terrorist and foreign agents. The Keeble inquiry later established that Canadian authorities had deemed it vital to determine the degree of infiltration by . foreign. and . terrorist elements. of the civil service and the military.

The operation identified funds transferred from Paris in favor of the Party Quebecois (as much as $350,000). The raid also revealed Swiss bank account check books. Perhaps even more sinister, Jacques Parizeau became a focus of the investigation as ring leader of the ‘network Parizeau’ whose aim was the infiltration by PQ operatives in sensitive postings of the civil service and the Canadian army and then releasing their findings to ‘a foreign power’. When queried, Parizeau candidly admitted his agents would ‘work for some praise and the occasional meal’.

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July 20, 1997

By Robert McKenzie, Toronto Star

Somewhere up there, Charles de Gaulle is enjoying himself. The 30th anniversary celebrations of his Vive le Québec libre speech here are stirring some of the same passions as in 1967.

Previous anniversaries of the late French president’s tumultuous visit to Quebec were fairly humdrum affairs, but this time the event appears to have hit a raw nerve.

Perhaps it’s the fact that Quebec sovereignists came within a whisker of victory in the October, 1995, referendum; perhaps it’s the prospect of the Parti Québcois government holding another referendum within a couple of years; or perhaps it’s the recent federal election which saw the Bloc Québcois lose ground but still return 44 separatist MPs to the House of Commons.

Likely, it’s all of those things plus the trappings of this year’s commemoration: a French postage stamp marking the anniversary, to be released later this year; a statue of de Gaulle being erected near the Plains of Abraham in Quebec city on Wednesday; a bicycle rally along the 280-kilometre route of de Gaulle’s triumphant motorcade to Montreal; and a rally Thursday evening at Montreal city hall where loudspeakers will broadcast de Gaulle’s bombshell address of 1967.

Last March, French sources said Prime Minister Jean Chrétien phoned French President Jacques Chirac to voice concern about a planned de Gaulle stamp. France offered assurances the stamp would not be released on a symbolic date, such as next week, and that the theme would be de Gaulle renewing ties with Quebec – with no specific mention of “Long live a free Quebec.”

In the meantime, the Saint-Jean-Baptiste Society of Montreal is compensating by printing 50,000 copies of a stamp of its own – a purely symbolic sticker of no use for mailing – showing de Gaulle speaking on the balcony at Montreal city hall with the words “Vive le Québec libre.”

But the stamp incident was nothing compared with the campaign launched against the celebrations by radio talk-show host Andr Arthur on Quebec city station CHRC and Montreal’s CKVL.

Arthur, the most virulently anti-separatist voice in the Quebec media, spent much of the week urging listeners to demonstrate their disapproval of the de Gaulle statue by dumping garbage and dog excrement at the foot of the monument during the Wednesday inauguration.

The main organizer of Thursday’s Montreal event, Guy Bouthillier, head of the Saint-Jean-Baptiste Society, said he heard similar comments from Ottawa-based phone-in host Lowell Green on Montreal’s English-language CIQC station.

“All of a sudden, we’re racists and fascists and so on,” Bouthillier said, adding sarcastically: “I suppose Gen. de Gaulle was a prominent fascist leader in World War II and was on friendly terms with such other well-known fascists as Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.”

Bouthillier said the emotions aroused today by the very memory of de Gaulle prove he hit at the heart of the Quebec problem in 1967. “You’ll see, it will all come out, the anger, the spite,” he predicted.

“ `Vive le Québec libre’ is such a strong statement that no Quebec politician has been able to use it since, with the exception, on only one occasion, I believe, of (former PQ premier) Jacques Parizeau,” he said.

Bouthillier said he expects “several thousand people” in front of Montreal city hall.

The Quebec sovereignty movement took shape before de Gaulle came in 1967 and was neither borrowed from or fashioned by anyone else, Bouthillier insists. De Gaulle, however, “contributed in giving Quebecers confidence in themselves,” he said.

Denis Simard, a young Quebec political science professor running for the PQ in a provincial by-election this fall, says de Gaulle is the historical figure who “fires my imagination – the man who refused to give up, who fought back alone for France, who emancipated France’s colonies, who saw, in 1967, that Quebec one day would have its autonomy in North America.”

Simard, 33, was 3 years old when De Gaulle shouted “Vive le Québec libre.”

Much of the comment back in 1967, by angry Canadian federalists and de Gaulle’s foes in France, suggested the 76-year-old presi dent didn’t intend to utter the phrase at all – that he was carried away by placard-waving, slogan-chanting separatists in the crowds and went further than he meant to.

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http://fim.ondragonswing.com/archives/002238.html

June 30, 2003
Canadian Hatred of the Frogs

In the comments section to this post, Jim raised a good point about why many Canadians hate the French (and why we shouldn’t forget to hate the French much more often, as far as I’m concerned): Big Nose de Gaulle’s Vive le Québec libre! declaration from the balcony of Montreal’s City Hall on July 24, 1967.

That asinine declaration by the great Liberator of France, who contributed heavily to liberating France from the Germans by sitting in a comfy studio at Broadcasting House in London (excuse me while I cackle for a minute… oh, there we go), gave the separatist movement in QC the impetus to come out of the woodwork and ruin this province (and especially this city) for the past thirty-odd years.

Granted, there have also been amusing moments, like when the FLQ (Québec Liberation Front, otherwise known as the most pathetic terrorist movement on the face of the Earth) spent years operating under the theory that the Anglos would just up and leave if they bombed such strategic targets as mailboxes in Westmount (Ha! Take zat, you rich Henglish pigs!), and shoe factories (that was a classic: the timer on the bomb wasn’t set properly, so some spotty-faced git that lived two houses down from us in TMR – another well-off Anglo neighbourhood; the irony of it all… – was blown to smithereens; the shoe factory suffered minor damage).

At any rate, Big Nose’s statement was more than enough of an insult to the senses, and a reason to harbour a grudge; however, then we get to the part that isn’t all that well-known: the SDECE, the French intelligence (I know, oxymoronic, isn’t it?) service at the time (I think it’s called the DGSE these days) recruited local talent, trained these agents, and infiltrated them into the Provincial Government back in the late sixties (one of these agents, Louise Beaudoin, was even a minister in a recent PQ cabinet). The SDECE also harboured and trained members of the FLQ, and did its best to breathe life into the separatist movement over the course of quite a few years; all of these activities fell under the cover of Operation Ascot. You can read all about it here, and here.

Had Canadian temper and power been more similar to those of the US, I’m pretty sure that this would have created a major international incident; however, being the strange people that we sometimes are, we never called the French Republic to answer for her actions during those years, and, of course, the fucking Frogs have never apologised.

If this isn’t a good enough reason to hate the French (as if wanting to pave over Imperial war graves dating back to WWI wasn’t enough of a good reason), I don’t know what is.

I have always thought that we could make it up to them by seizing St. Pierre & Miquelon (two tiny French islands off Newfoundland) from them (at least until they apologised and compensated us appropriately for meddling in our affairs), but, then again, we’d need a Prime Minister with balls to pull that off.

In the meantime, I’d like my American readers to think of what they’d feel if the French intelligence services were busy recruiting and training a separatist movement made up of Mexicans in California… OK, maybe a state that people actually like would be a better concept, so let’s say Texas; or if they were doing the same in Hawaii…

I tend to think that you’d be pretty pissed off, wouldn’t you?

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http://fim.ondragonswing.com/archives/002238.html

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Sorry to bust your bubble but the goal that Materazzi scored was illegal. He jumped on French defender Viera’s shoulders to score the goal and such a proceeding is illegal. Plus looking at the statistics…COME ON! France had 15 shots on goal while Italy had 5. If the French team had Buffon and Italy had Barthez for goalkeepers, the score would have been 3-0 France.

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hey everybody!

Hows everone doin, its been a long time!!

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Hey Sunny!

Welcome back! Where have you been? Come join us on the CONI thread…. Jane is there and this girl Lucy who is really funny too.

Havent heard from Josh in ages… Irish pops in every once in a while he he he…. that’s about it…

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Me, I have no idea who you are replying to… are you referring TONI’S goal which was called offside and should have been???

15 crappy shots at the goal doesnt win you a game sweetie…

you kind of have to hit the target… sorry to burst YOUR bubble…

P.S. France should have never had a ps in the begining of the game anyhow…

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Sunny -

You’re alive…thought Catherine had used you in her pickles and tomato sauce!

Hi Sunny how have you been and where have you been. I have been very worried!!! Hows the new job going? bet you went and got married and are frightened to tell Catherine and me. Anyway don’t you go disappearing again xxx

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Hey Irish something is wrong with this site again it looks like you are posting from Japan. If your here let me know and we will catch up lol

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That’s what makes France so pathetic. 15 shots and only 1 bogus penalty shot to show for it.

I can’t wait to see what other excuse these pathetic French (or are they French) fans come up with. In my opinion without their African influence France are nothing…put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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Yo yo yo—- YO!!!!!!!!!!!
Jane, Catherine, Irish, Sunny — what is up? Happy Belated Christmas. Where is this CONI site????????

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Hi Josh,

Same to you, nobody has been around for ages, I keep popping in to have a look but no response. You take care now

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