De Rossi to miss several games?

Here’s another point:

Saying that he should get a 3 match suspension (if that’s what he gets) is like saying that his red card was 3X worse than a normal red… since one match is the default red suspension. Was it 3X worse? Probably not.

Posted from  United States

Treacher… great video. You hit the nail on the head. Marco… it’s a joke. Ha-ha!

Posted from  Canada

I agree that it may not have been a totally intentional blow by De Rossi but it is what it is. What people should consider is that McBride is like Glass Joe from Mike Tyson’s Punchout. He starts bleeding if a leaf blowing in the wind hits him the face.

Posted from  United States

Listen here peoples,

De Rossi elbow was a mistake and for sure not intended. Look at the replay and you will understand. If you jump up in the air for a ball you put your elbow out sometimes, so leave the guy alone!

Back to the game against CZCH, we need to leave Totti on the side ( yellow card ) and put in Del Piero, Gattuso. TONI needs more chances to put the ball in, every setup he has gotten has been limp, so Luca will for sure shine sooner than later.

GO ITALIA!!!!!

Posted from  Canada

what are you all thinking? maybe they should just give a red card for carrying a knife and sticking it in? Or remember the schumacher foul in 86? Rossi gets 3 minimum - he did it on purpose - he even gave one of those shit-eating grins after he got caught - plus after the card he called the ref a wanker too.

As for the diving - well some of the teams milk it and that isn’t cool. I don’t think Italy was overboard in that regard.

But I’ve noticed - the truly world class players nowadays don’t EVER go over. They try to keep going because they know they can do more on their feet. Henry, Ronaldinho, Riquelme, Rooney and many others. THey only go down when they can’t stop themselves.

And if Rossi was going to hit someone, why not the guy who scored the goal? He tried to do a showboat clearance and messed it up. He wouldn’t have messed up an easy one.

Posted from  United States

owen i was sitting there nodding my head while reading you rpost up until the “showboat clearance” bit. i think he was just trying to clear the ball out of his area, and was terribly unlucky. i don’t think he could score the same goal, that perfectly (low, corner, away from buffon) in another 100 attempts. hard luck.

Posted from  United States

for a very similar elbowing just nastier result to Luis Enrique our Tassotti in 1994 got 9 games out !! the rules now are even stricter De Rossi should be lucky to get 3 games out …his behaviour has been widely reprimended ..the WC is the time to act as an adult but of course he his not there yet…i hope that his loss will not be too heavy on us.

Posted from  United States

That Video is soooooooooo fake…no wonder you dont see any of the players’ faces

Posted from  United States

mcbride is tall. he gets elbowed all the time. how do we know he did it on purpose he mite have mistimed his jump and accdently caught him in the face

Boo -
Because having titanium plates installed in your head is such a gas.

The idea that all red cards are the same is ridiculous. Whether you think De Rossi’s elbow was intentional or not could be up for debate (I think that it was, but the game happens very fast so I will agree that it’s uncertain), but there’s a big difference between two yellows (could be a shirt pull and arguing with the ref) and intentionally trying to hurt someone. If FIFA thinks that a player is trying to hurt someone then they have a duty to act more harshly than they would for an ordinary red card. I don’t know of any sport that doesn’t respond strongly when one player tries to hurt another (the Stackhouse foul on Shaq in the NBA Finals and a fight in baseball both come to mind as examples from the last couple of months). An intentional attempt to hurt someone is different in kind from a play that is dangerous but happens naturally as part of the game. If that’s what FIFA believes De Rossi was trying to do then there should be a multi-game suspension.

Posted from  United States

OK, enough moralizing and onto the real stuff. Calciomercato.it reports that this is the probable starting lineup:

Italia (4-3-2-1)

Buffon
Zambrotta Nesta Cannavaro Grosso
Perotta Pirlo Gattuso
Camoranesi Totti
Gilardino

I’m thrilled to see Zaccardo off (never liked him, in fact), but shocked and dismayed to see Toni off as well. I won’t believe this lineup until I see it, but there has been no reason to lose faith in Toni during this tournament at all. He was persistently dangerous throughout the Ghana match, and had no service throughout the bizarre USA match. He’s a deadly striker, and I pray that Lippi hasn’t lost faith.

Posted from  United Kingdom

Changing rules during the competition is not the best way but I think it would send the right message to others.
I remember a similar action during 94’s WM involving Tassoti and Luis Enrique in the penaly area (the later ending with a broke nose) not being called. I wouldn’t like to see that kind of actions again.

Posted from  Luxembourg

I agree that de Rossi should be punished appropriately for what he has done and I disagree with those arguing that all red cards are the same.
The maximum punishment a referee can dish out on the field is a red card. But you just cannot categorize all red card-warranting offenses into one.
On the field a referee has to determine whether a player needs to be cautioned (yellow) or taken out of the game (red).
In case of a red, FIFA, then, needs to determine the extend to which the player has to be punished.
As others have rightly argued before a red card might be the result of a shirt-pulling + dissent, or a two-legged tackle or punching someone in the face and meting out the same punishment for a red card irrespective of the nature of the rule-breach is clearly ridiculous.
Now, regarding the appropriateness of the punishment, it should definitely be dependent on whether the assault was intentional or accidental and FIFA would have to determine that for them.
But to me, given the guys behavior in the past, I would not give him any benefit of doubt on the intentional aspect.

Posted from  United States

If subsequent suspensions are to be handed out for certain offences then that should be clearly spelled out prior to the tournament, as Jay says. It is ironic how Italian players have often gotten equivalent elbows thrown their way without punishment against the offending player. In the 2000 Euro Cup Desailly elbowed Canavarro during a dead play and no call, no fine, no subsequent suspension; the same thing happened in the 2004 world cup when a south korean player elbowed Coco. Yet now an Italian elbows a player and not only did he get red carded but he’s going to get suspended? It is simply a double standard against Italy, and one which is being made up as it is applied.

Posted from  Canada

Observer you’re ridiculous. I watched that game in 2002…first of all, in the first half an italian defender high tackled a korean guy, who needed medical attention briefly.
THEN, in the second half, it was TOMMASI who whacked Coco with his elbow when they both went up, with a Korean guy, to head a corner kick by Korea.
I remember the Italians in the room were screaming murder, thinking that the Korean guy had thrown an elbow in retaliation for the first-half elbow that wasn’t called. Then they laughed with embarrassment and shut their faces up when the replay showed what really happened.
Also, earlier in the match Totti was booked for flailing an elbow in another aerial challenge.
That’s THREE high tackles by the Italians in that match alone.
What about this Cup? The lone high tackle so far, of course, is De Rossi. Is it not clear to all of you now that Italians are the prime culprits for high elbows? Hell, the Italians like throwing elbows so much they even whack their teammates…fucking ridiculous

Posted from  Switzerland

The impact of the Red Card seems disproportionate. Teams will be penalized for the current game but where there is so much subjective question about whether the foul deserved a Red card, why carry over penalties to the next game? It hurts the competition in my opinion and diminishes the World Cup no matter what level the penalized player is at, great, good, or average.

Posted from  United States

If you actually bothered to read the regulations posted on FIFA.com you’d see that any red card for intentional physical harm is punished by a minimum of a 3 game suspension. DeRossi should get at least that.

Posted from  United States

I agree and laughed at the Glass Joe= Mike McBride comment. That’s funny. It was a mistake. Why didn’t they give a red card to all the Americano players who blew on the Italian players and made them fall down all the time. It happened all game long too! But no red cards. Everybody hates Italy that’s why DeRossi got red carded.

P.S. I would write more but I have to go watch the Sopranos in my wife-beater shirt.

Posted from  United States

ok but why did harry kewelle get away with abusing the ref tor a couple minutes .. i dont think any player is alowed to abuse the ref .. so thats why de rossi should get 2 games

Posted from  Australia

It’s official, he’s received a well deserved 4 game ban. Bye bye De Rossi

Posted from  United States

i think he should never wear an italian jersey again…that elbow was disgraceful. I almost wanted Italy to lose after that.

And then the stupid, “what me, are you kidding ref?”…give me a break, go sit down you clown.

he embodies everything that’s wrong with italian soccer…a bunch of prima donnas that are INDIVIDUALS and not a team… most of them are worried about their own stats (and hairstyle) than their team

take a look at the goal inzaghi scored today against the czechs…granted he still scored, but pass the damn ball for the easy goal instead of trying to be the hero

anyways…back to what’s his face, anyone who’s ever played a team sport knows that the elbow was the stupidest thing he could have done…it didnt serve any purpose, it was in midfield for cyrin’ out loud…selfish is the only word you can use to describe it

so I hope that FIFA, and if not them, the FIGC, suspend him for the rest of the tourney…

the italians are a great team, buy they’re not going to go anywhere if they dont get their act together…

Posted from  Canada

De Rossi is very hansome

Posted from  United States

Re Owen’s message from June 21–all of the world class players never dive.

Henry’s fake injury leads to the winner in France v Spain. Replay shows that the elbow was not within a foot of Henry’s face, and yet he fakes by grasping his face in agony.

The diving in this cup as a whole is outrageous. When did it become ok for people who call themselves atheletes to pretend they are injured when they are not. It is cowardly, cheating, and it is not the beautiful game.

I’m for the De Rossi ban. I am even more for FIFA reviewing matches for blatant dives and issuing bans for that as well. That will quickly provide incentive for people to prefer to move forward rather than dive in hopes for a free kick.

Posted from  United States

To my favourite team
I just want to tell u that please play the game more professionaly. My only wish is to become the wolrd chaampions this time.I want to meet to some of the italian players…
i’m very satisfied with performance of the previous matches. I hope u will play well in the quater final match I will be watching it on TV.

Posted from  Maldives