Captain Canna (And Possibly Legro) Out of Monday’s Clash

*necessary.

The problems of Pirlo and De Rossi are well-documented, and if Lippi insists on a 4-3-3 or some variation, it’s much more important to have a dedicated regista who can get the ball up to the front men effectively, as opposed to just blasting it down there and hope someone latches onto it.

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Good! This version of the Azzurri is a sinking ship anyway, I gotta make some popcorn and get ready for this joke.

Probable Line-up:

Buffon
Zambro – Chiellini – Legro – Grosso
Rino – Pirlo – Derossi
Pepe – Gila – Quags (though I’d like Iaquinta)

Either way, I think the azzurri will win this match, it’s not Canna or anyone else that can grind out these wins, it’s Gattuso who does the grunt work, when will people realize that its actually Gattuso that wins us and Milan most games. While he was gone we were useless, just about as useless as DeRossi on any given sunday. You won’t see how overrated this team is until we play Brazil, USA should be a cake walk for us. Will they be is another story.

Alessio- Palombo over De Rossi? Find that hard to believe. But I won’t doubt that. De Rossi and Pirlo have had problems, and maybe De Rossi will decide to elbow another American in the face if he plays lol.

First game is starting. Those fuckin horns the South African fans have are gonna annoy me so much. And the ref for the match: Jorge Larrionda! Guess we miss out on him then.

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Alessio..Milan aka “The home of over 30, Has Beens, and Brazilian players”

Anyway, RSA 0-0 IRA………RSA should have won by at least 1…
2010 the winter world cup….today the pitch didn’t look that great…….too.
I def will watch spain vs n. Zealand

Marco…..u r right Rino is the key for NT and Milan…….

Probable Line-up from Lippi’s blah blah blah and recent practice/training
Buffon
Zambro-Legro-Chiellini-Grosso
Rino-Pirlo-De Rossi
Camo-Gila/Toni-Iaquinta

I heard he may still start Toni over Gila
Lippi thinks Toni may be more effective vs US then Gila.

Toni over Gila eh? Well that doesnt surprise me. I think lippi might need another tournament to understand that Toni is slow, and talantless. I hope he scores 10 goals in this tournament, but based off recent tournaments, I believe he will not score a single goal. Perhaps against Egypt but unlikely.

I’m also interested to see Cheillini in this confed cup. I hope he continues on with his great performances with the national team. I am a little worried cause I do think he is a bit of a loose canon, but if he performs admirably here I will have confidence going into the world cup next year with his abilities.

I do hope Rossi gets some serious playing time too. I believe it would be a mistake to let him sit on the bench in this tournament. We need his creativity and ball handling abilities. Not to mention he can offset much of the slowness found in the midfield and attack.

Grosso will be huge, as always, but I also hope he is paired with Santon in RB. Letting Santon sit for the older, slower, fragile Zambro will be a pitty and a waste of a perfecting good opportunity to test out the younger talent.

With all this being said, on the eve of this tournament, I HOPE and PRAY that this is the final time I will see Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Pepe, Toni, Camro, etc wearing the Azzurri Colours. It will be a crime against to have these gentlemen suit up for the 2010 world cup.

(Look at Juventus fans with Cannavaro to show you all the mood and feeling behind these older players)

World Cup 2010 Roster

G Gianluigi Buffon
G Christian Abbiati
G Gianluca Curci
D Giorgio Chiellini
D Fabio Grosso
D Davide Santon
D Paolo De Ceglie
D Fabiano Santacroce
D Domenico Criscito
D Marco Motta
D Christian Maggio
M Daniele De Rossi
M Antonio Nocerino
M Claudio Marchisio
M Andrea Pirlo
M Pasquale Foggia
M Sebastian Giovinco
M Gaetano D’Agostino
S Antonio Cassano
S Giuseppe Rossi
S Giampaolo Pazzini
S Robert Acquafresca
S Fabrizio Miccoli
S Alessandro Del Piero
S Graziano Pelle

Cannavaro should quit the game, period, it is over for him due to the fact that he is an old dude, experienced yes but not any more effective and influential as he used to be i.g. “World Cup 2006″. Legro is awful, Zambro is shaky, Grosso is stil the man Italia can depend on when the going gets tough, I have to say Grosso should be in midfield. When was the last time you saw Gattuso play real football. Amazing really from all the stars that emerged from Serie A this season Lippi sticked with the old guys. You ask me who will win the Confederations Cup? I tell you Spain, this team plays good football and they are young the weapon of todays’ football to win a tournament. Of course, I would love to see Italy wins it, unfortunately I have an instinct that says Italy will not win it. Ciao

To Marcello Lippi’s younger brother; If this Roster you mentioned represents Italy I guarantee Italia will win the world cup, euro cup and confederations cup. Ciao

And even more embarrassing for Italy… Spain is leading New Zealand 4-0 and they have only played for 20 minutes.

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@ HT ESP 4 – N.ZEL 0

world cup lineup:

buffon
motta canna chiellini santon/grosso

pirlo
de rossi marchisio

giovinco
cassano rossi

-if no cassano then any one of pazzini, gila or iaquinta based on whose on form

FT ESP 5 – NZE 0

I’m not worried. It’s a mickey mouse cup to begin with, let Spain win it or crush New Zealand. We’ll keep our World Cup titles.

Cannavaro needs to quit football. Or go somewhere he’s wanted.

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It’s not really embarassing. It’s just the way things are. If you want to get the same kinf of results against these type of teams, you’re just going to have to come out of your defensive shell. You have enough skillfull players for it.

But I haven’t seen Italy willing to take any risks since 2000 (and that includes their WC win in 2006) and the more Italy has crepped into their shell the worse it has gotten for them (EC 2008).

Allthough I haven’t seen them play much after the EC, so I don’t know if anything has changed. But if I read your comments, it seems Italy’s style/strategy hasn’t changed much, has it? At least most of the players are still the same (allthough that might not say anything about the strategy).

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crepped=crept

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Alessio, Palumbo over DeRossi is a sign of early dementia; you should get that checked out.

also, i have seen Cannavaro play for Real … and i have seen Chiellini play. how many titles did Chiellini win with Juve? Real one two. both teams finished 2 in their respective leagues this year, but the Liga is really a much more attacking league … more goals are to be expected.

besides, whether it is Chiellini, Legrottaglie or Gamberini, they all do better when they are playing with Cannavaro alongside.

…just wait and see how your superheroes perform tomorrow. NewZealand put 3 easy ones by them. US will be a tougher test.

…just wait and see how your superheroes perform tomorrow. NewZealand put 3 easy ones by them.

Was not aware that Amelia was one of my superheroes, but thanks for letting me know.

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Alessio, Palumbo over DeRossi is a sign of early dementia; you should get that checked out.

Or a sign that I recognize simple tactics. It’s been discussed many times how De Rossi and Pirlo will fuck with each other if they are both playing. A top-class Pirlo with Palombo/Gattuso to do all the terrying in midfield is a lot better than De Rossi trying to do everything. Andrea won the Bronze ball at WC2006 after all.

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Yea and that was three years ago that he won the bronze ball. Benching arguably the best player on the team for gattuso who hasnt played in months, palombo who has never been good for the azzurri, and even pirlo who isnt nearly where he was at in 2006 is absolutely crazy. Remember the one game De Rossi didnt start in the Eurocup??? Yea it was the Dutch game, which ended 3-0. Plus you have forgotten the game against france, where de rossi and pirlo both played great together.

Cannavaro is still a very decent player. Not as good as before, but still one of our better CB’s

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Spain can do all the group wrecking they want. What happened to the last team that rampaged through their group in a major tournament?
Mr. Trebek: What is the Netherlands? Yeah, they thrashed us then epically failed in the knockout round last year.

Toni will perform better against the US? Who scored the only goal (past an American keeper that is) in the WC? “ALBERTOOOOOOO, GILLLLLLAARRRRDIINNNOOOOO!” – Caressa
Just had to point that out. Sure it was a set piece, and Toni could have finished that too.

Alessio- I have to say, I love your line-up and reasoning behind it. The US performs well against tactically predictable teams (ie: Mexico) but fails against scrappy sides (ie: Costa Rica) I think Lippi may throw that line-up out, but with Toni instead of Gila and DDR over Palombo. Toni/Gila, Rossi, and Iaquinta all bring different stuff to the table and should confuse the shit out of the US. Hopefully, the confusion doesn’t mess up our own attack lol. The physical midfielders are key too.

***Also, we need stalwart defense from Zambrotta if Donovan is on the left side like he was against Honduras for USA. He is there to attract the defense and open up the middle for Altidore and buds. Zambro better be on his game, I’m almost scared enough to mention….Santon….but we all know that will never happen. If we stop Donovan, are physical in the midfield, and can put 1 or 2 in, this game is easily won. Bada bing.

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Okay, so considering we know Lippi is gonna use his typical 4-3-3, this is the best way the lineup could be, with his callups:

—————Buffon
Zambrotta—Legro–Chiellini–Grosso
—Gattuso—–Pirlo—–De Rossi
–Camo——Quagliarella—Iaquinta

Camo is not a typical forward, but i think he would still do better in that role than Foggia and certainly Pepe. I give Legro a start over Cannavaro because he’s also got alot of experience at 30-something years old, plus hasnt really slowed down as much as Canna. And it’s undeniable that Legro and Chiellini complement each other very well, they play so much better together. Zambrotta didnt have a great season at Milan, but not a bad one either and still performs well for the National team, just look at the friendly against Brazil. And Gilardino had a good game against New Zealand, but i dont think he should be starting. Quagliarella is a better target man in my opinion.

Okay, so considering we know Lippi is gonna use his typical 4-3-3, this is the best way the lineup could be, with his callups:

—————Buffon
Zambrotta—Legro–Chiellini–Grosso
—Gattuso—–Pirlo—–De Rossi
Camoranesi—-Iaquinta—-Rossi

Camo is not a typical forward, but i think he would still do better in that role than Foggia and certainly Pepe. I give Legro a start over Cannavaro because he’s also got alot of experience at 30-something years old, plus hasnt really slowed down as much as Canna. And it’s undeniable that Legro and Chiellini complement each other very well, they play so much better together. Zambrotta didnt have a great season at Milan, but not a bad one either and still performs well for the National team, just look at the friendly against Brazil. And Gilardino had a good game against New Zealand, but i dont think he should be starting. Quagliarella is a better target man in my opinion.

Actually, i forgot about Giuseppe Rossi, so i would take Quagliarella out, put Iaquinta into the center, and Rossi out on the left instead.

Remember the one game De Rossi didnt start in the Eurocup??? Yea it was the Dutch game, which ended 3-0.

Chiellini didn’t start that game either. Neither did Del Piero. Neither did Marco Amelia.

Correlation does not imply causation, and vice versa.

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