The Golden Lining

lamagica, Italia has beaten Germany in EVERY game they had… I think the Germans have said in 1980 that they’re looking to the future and they LOST.
They said it in 2004 and they LOST and they will say it again and they will LOSE.
The German inferiority complex to the ITALIANS will never cease. Why? Because you can NEVER beat us…
And in case you didn’t notice, because I’m sure you haven’t. The title of this post is the Golden lining, which is the coming back of MARCELLO LIPPI.
We’re seeing you in 2010.

very true, elie.

Posted from  Canada

Germany has had more World Cup and Euro Cup(taken together) successes than Italy, albeit they were not admitted to WC in 1950 and entered the Euro competition as late as ‘72.

Honky, what ur not taking into consideration is the fact that a tema with 525287532538753752321357 Euro would switch them for 1 star on his chest. And Italia has 4 when Germany has 3 and will not have its 4th star anytime soon.

Elie,
You can’t even r e a d – not to speak of c o u n t.

WC 4:3 – accepted.

And the rest? WC 2nds 3rds, EURO Champs: where are you, italy ?

Ignoring is no way of clever perception.

But then again – what can you expext from an Italian ?

I have read a lot of stupid and racist comments and a lot of name calling in this blog. Hey guys we are talking about football here. So stick to the subject. I have also read a lot of comments agst Donadoni which equally are rather stupid. Whenever a team loses the coach is always to blame. That is shitty since a team is made up of the coach AND the players and besides there is also the fact that teams played agst might be better. So please desist from blaming anyone. That is besides the point. Yes I am rather pleased Italy are out. They deserved it. But let’s direct the blame where it should be directed. Italian football has always stunk. Italian fans rebut by saying that they have won 4 WCs. So what. Football success is not measured by how many cups you win but by the pleasure you give other ppl in watching a game. And also by real sportsmanship which I am sorry to say the Italians lack. They blame everything – their coach, referees, back luck and whatnot.And they never blame the real issue – their boring, defensive, “I don’t want to lose” (rather than “I want to win”) tactics. In pastr editions where Italians were successful, their success lay with bad refereeing. Referees who did not see beyond their noses to see the simulation tactics and palyt acting of the Italians. During the last WC Italians limped through the first stage through shameful refereeing and continued to limp to the finals likewise – the German penalty/goal which was not conceded etc etc. Italians fans do not admit this. Why are Italian footballers called the world over Cheatalians? Why? Because those who are the most blind are those who have eyes and do not want to see as those who are the most deaf are those who have ears but do not listen. I am sorry but Italy have never impressed and never pleased as opposed to Brazil, Germany, Holland, England etc – by their total football, good sportmsmanship and attcking football skills. A prooof of this is – how many Italian players play outside their shores? and how many players of these nations play in other countries???

You guys are correct, Italy has the only players that ever dive in the penalty area, as oposed to the French player that was literally chopped to pieces in the area to get a penalty in the 2006 final. I’m surprised he was able to get up after that brutal foul! And for some reason, the refs always disallow goals scored against Italy, but all goals scored by Italy are always given, like Toni’s goal against Romania, where he was 3 yards onside. Italy’s technical ability is terrible. Grosso’s rotten shot against germany in 06 should never have gone in. The Keeper must have been drugged (by an Italian doctor). Germany’s shots over the crossbar should have counted as goals instead. Italy’s victory in 82 was surely a fluke. The fact that Brazil had no clue how to defend had nothing to do with it. And how could such a defensive team possibly score 3 goals in the final even after missing a penalty kick against a surely superior team like Germany? In 06 Italy allowed 2 goals in the WC, one PK and an own goal. They must have been constantly bullying and threatening the opposing forwards, especially the ones from Australia who dominated (but scored nothing). And yes, the victories in the 30s shouldn’t even count since it was so long ago anyway. We should also forget about the wars of that era and everything else.

The Italians don’t need to go to other countries to play. They get paid plenty in Italy. It’s the players from the other countries who try to get on Italian teams. Italian club teams have won more than their fair share of eauropean tournaments, even when they had fewer foreign players. Today’s high powered English teams have mostly foreign players. Where would they be without them?

You people should find something else to do other than making jackasses out of yourselves.

Posted from  United States

Sore losers, sore losers. Whining, petulant childlike fans. Italian players do not play outside their shores cause no one appreciates them – boooooh. As the Siennese say – “L’avete in culo”. Cry babies. Always a poor show – champs cheatalians. Next time round train more in simulations (you’ve got cinecitta’ and anyways italian footballers like tobe seen with soubrettes and attriccette, probably to learn more of their art)- you might win again as that it the only way you can advance – playactors

Way to go Ritianne:))How sore can you get Bruno.It hurts MAN. Get a pc of your raving squad and jerk your sorrows over them: laod of floosies:

zambrotta – barca
cannavarro – real madrid
grosso – lyon
toni – bayern
barzagli – wolfsburg

now fuck off, as the canadians say.

Posted from  Canada

victor – your mother would be proud of the way you suck other people’s dicks around here. she taught you well.

Posted from  Canada

Krafft:

Congratulations on a precise analysis. Italy’s soccer might is one of the media’s myths that has now come to wither away.

There is no country that has had so many foul things gone their way than Italy.

If you follow the int’l blogs this a red thread going through all the way no matter where the posts come from. Mere coincidence ? Cosmic conspiracy against poor liitle nice ever-so-clean Italy? Hogwash.

But do not hope they will ever get inbto perspective. Just like Bella Napoli – smothered in dirt, filth, and corruption ( “To see Naples and then die” has assumed a very interesting and alarming connotation).

But I like their pasta.

From GERMANY

Error :

Of course the addresse should read: “james” .

Hey all, I need to apologize for my sarcastic post earlier on… My emotions got the best of me.

I think I was a tad uptight after some nasty posts made on the Dutch blog by some Italy fans… I should have counted to ten, I know…

I tried to do it “tongue in cheek” but I realize sarcasm isn’t always funny and definitely not when your team has just lost. And I shouldn’t lower myself to stuff like this.

I am sorry if I offended anyone.

The point is: (as I said before) I am actually an admirer of the Italian team (not particularly this one though) and would have liked to see a more adventurous side this EC…

Anyway, I’ll stay on my own turf

Ciao to all

ahhh, yet another brilliant mind speaking. i guess the media gave us 4 world cups, 2 runners-up, one 3rd place and one 4th place finish; one euro trophy. one runners up and one 4th place.

and krafft, being german, you couldnt resist taking it beyond football, huh. how typically german of you. like germany has a great reputation in its history, right? typical.

Posted from  Canada

I am not a sore loser or a whiner. Just answering to ignorant remarks I never expected Italy to win this tournament. The team was not as strong as 06. Donadoni did not produce a dominant midfielder to replace Totti, and the attack was nothing more than a one way street to a stumbling Toni who could not even stay on his feet. The remaining WORLD CHAMPIONS are all 2 years older now, and Donadoni brought in retreads like Cassano who contributed little, if anything. The only thing that worked was the defense, evidenced by the fact that Spain scored 0 goals. The fact is, even when Italy has a weak squad, and a stupid coach, they are almost impossible to beat, and everyone fears them. You bums that like to insult a great team with a great history, should go talk about your own teams, if there is anything to talk about.

Lamagica,
Germany barely beat Turkish subs… LOL… and they dare to call themselves LEGEND! HAHAHAHA!
Honky, it seems ur the one who cannot read. My previous post clearly said that a huge nbr of Euro titles won by any team would be switched in a hear beat to a star on their shirts… Germany might have more euro titles than Italy but Italy has more world cup titles than Germany.
Besides, Germany has NEVER beaten Italy in any official tournament and Italy is the only team EVER to beat Germany in Dortmund. Remember the 2-0 in the semi-finals?
Lamagica, let’s not reply anymore. They are seeing Germany as this huge team that really can’t even play. Even their coach said they won against Turkey by chance and every single football expert knows they won against Portugal because of their coach’s wit and tactics.
As to those who are saying Italian football is just a myth, I have a very brief thing to say: Lippi is back… we’re seeing you in 2010!

Plus Honky, I’m not Italian! LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

To Gaby and all the rest

“Phil >
“It does not change certain perceptions prelevant throughout all of Europe. Italy is by far the least liked team overall.” Where did you get this from? is there a statistic for this? or is it just your perception?” – You should read more international sports papers/mags etc etc. As to “Most people on this blog who support Italy are non Italians, like myself.” Yes very true. We see a lot of american/australian/canadian flags. However that is neither here nor there. Most probably first/second or third generation italian immigrants – who although brought up in these new countries – countries which with all respect know very little about the game (alto’ in the past wc offered better matches agst italy itself)- still have a sentimental link to the mother country.
You italian fans bring criticsm agst yourselves – whenever someone criticises your football youget all het up/arrogant/hysterical and start using foul language – cf Bruno’s and Lamagica comments

The mighty azzuri will rise again, and we will have Marcello Lippi back to win his second world cup in a row. Forza Azzuri

Posted from  United Kingdom

Facts are facts, no matter what bambini may babble.

Germany has a history of drawbacks vs. Italy. No denying. Fact.

Sweden has never defeated Germany. Fact.

Germany – not counting pre-war encounters (when Germany was an underdevelopped country in soccer) has hurt England more often than the other way round. Fact.

Brazil has a negative record with France. Fact.

Such things do occur.

But fact is, too, that internationally the Germany team has been distinctly more (often) successful than Italy.

Do you honestly think that one World Cup more weighs more than those many 2nd, 3rd and 4th places G. had – not to forget the t h r e e (no other country has hitherto achieved this) Europe Championships? Do you? Do you really?

For Christ’s sake, be h o n e s t at least once.
But I’m afraid that’s too tough for the likes of you. And most Europeans see it that way, too,

Honly:

Brilliant. I agree 100 %.

Honky:

Forget Elie, bruno, lamagica. They are Italians.

Forgive Elie, bruno, lamagica. They are Italians.

They came on here with so much hype. Where is the hype now? Done in their diarrheric tummies. How the gods are smitten. This time round God wanted to be neutral and he wasn’t italian anymore. POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOr italians. They had no refs to favour them this time. They forgot how to simulate and dive from the last WC where they excelled in them. So they had nothing to lean on to. Poor football is all that they could offer. Well prima ballerinas have often reitred at the apex of their carreers. These lot did not and what a let down for them. I pity Donandoni for taking the brunt for the inanitiies of his players.

BTW Honky all those u mentioned above aren’t even Italians. The most they can be called are half breeds. Dreaming of LA Patria which now they have no claim on. They do not really know what they are. Italians – NAHHHHHHHHHH. They were born elsewhere. Canadians, amercians, what not – NAHHHHHHHHHHH. They cannot be so since they claim otherwise. Poverini – figli di nessuno.